Could this ever work in NYC clubs?

[Skylab]

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Doesn't take a genius to see a huge difference in the nightlife culture around the world. I've been to a club so far in all the countries I been to and I keep wondering if these would work in NYC and why or why not.

1. No searching before entering a club

Even in Australia, I have not been searched once. And if they do, its usually for ONLY weapons. From what I've been told, London doesn't do many searches either. Is there an automatic sense of security?

2. Free tap water (by law)

Singapore had a law that it must provide water to all the customers that request it. I found most clubs in Australia provide free water as well. Very helpful for people who are getting sick or dehydrated.

3. Drug Aware?

It's all too common we see tons of people taking it too far and getting kicked out to the side of the street with the bouncers not giving a shit what happens to the person. Australia has a program called 'drug aware (http://drugaware.com.au/)' meaning although they recommend never to take drugs, they understand the culture and provide tips for it's users. Ads for this were everywhere in a club in Perth.

4. Serving food

In Chinese culture, it's fairly common to order food in a club. You'll see a huge dish of the most random foods. Fruit dish seemed popular when I went. How many times have you been to an afterhours and got real hungry?

5. Re-entering a club after leaving without paying again

In Singapore and Oz, I was stamped on my hand which allowed me to go in and out of the club at anytime. This helped a lot in my recent club in Melbourne. I got hungry so I went to 711 for some food and went back in. I had left the club twice that night for just randomness and they don't really care. In Singapore I jumped to 3 different clubs with one stamp all night (same owner and paid one admission for all 3)


Whats your opinion? Could NYC clubs handle this? Or are we just too out of control?

[dolcecorazon]

I'm putting this on the main page =)

[Fast Eddie]

Soundfactory always use to put out fruit trays for the long parties in the morning <3

[Silverbull]

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Doesn't take a genius to see a huge difference in the nightlife culture around the world. I've been to a club so far in all the countries I been to and I keep wondering if these would work in NYC and why or why not.

1. No searching before entering a club

Even in Australia, I have not been searched once. And if they do, its usually for ONLY weapons. From what I've been told, London doesn't do many searches either. Is there an automatic sense of security?

2. Free tap water (by law)

Singapore had a law that it must provide water to all the customers that request it. I found most clubs in Australia provide free water as well. Very helpful for people who are getting sick or dehydrated.

3. Drug Aware?

It's all too common we see tons of people taking it too far and getting kicked out to the side of the street with the bouncers not giving a shit what happens to the person. Australia has a program called 'drug aware (http://drugaware.com.au/)' meaning although they recommend never to take drugs, they understand the culture and provide tips for it's users. Ads for this were everywhere in a club in Perth.

4. Serving food

In Chinese culture, it's fairly common to order food in a club. You'll see a huge dish of the most random foods. Fruit dish seemed popular when I went. How many times have you been to an afterhours and got real hungry?

5. Re-entering a club after leaving without paying again

In Singapore and Oz, I was stamped on my hand which allowed me to go in and out of the club at anytime. This helped a lot in my recent club in Melbourne. I got hungry so I went to 711 for some food and went back in. I had left the club twice that night for just randomness and they don't really care. In Singapore I jumped to 3 different clubs with one stamp all night (same owner and paid one admission for all 3)


Whats your opinion? Could NYC clubs handle this? Or are we just too out of control?

1. Certain clubs had this until recently (Cielo) but with NYPD looking for any sort of excuse to search people you wont find to many clubs still doing this (very few if not only a handful, bars dont count)

2. Ive always asked for Tap water at many clubs in my yrs of going out and have never been refused. Weird faces though lol.

3. DOES SOUNDS INTERESTING AND MIGHT BE SOMETHING COOL :good:

4. This practice began in 1968 at THE LOFT with David Mancuso and still takes place at Certain parties mainly at Deephouse parties and i mean REAL FOOD not just a bowl of fruits and chips for example Chicken, rice, salads, vegtables, ribs,etc. Shelter use to have Mother Byrd cooking all types of food as well.

5. This is a sticky situation as people might go and eat and drink outside of the club (and do drugs) which means less spent inside. I think its good and if were to happen i say there should be a limit to like 2 or 3 at most depending on how long a party is.

[Thylacine]

America is a violent place... check this link (http://www.midwestfreepress.com/2009/04/24/americas-most-violent-cities/). I didn't read through it thoroughly but I know NYC isn't on there. That's not to say NYC isn't a violent place. It just means they have a competent police force. But basically if we could just stop killing each other over petty bullshit we'd be ok. I blame sumo wrestlers... because shit gets out of hand sometimes and they explode... knawww mean?
(http://www.midwestfreepress.com/2009/04/24/americas-most-violent-cities/)

[Skylab]

4. This practice began in 1968 at THE LOFT with David Mancuso and still takes place at Certain parties mainly at Deephouse parties and i mean REAL FOOD not just a bowl of fruits and chips for example Chicken, rice, salads, vegtables, ribs,etc. Shelter use to have Mother Byrd cooking all types of food as well.

They served seafood in the clubs in China I was at with other things on a pretty nice menu. Taking apart a shrimp, drinking a vodka/redbull, and listening to house. lol. Felt kinda weird but I loved it.

[lola]

I dig the "drug aware" pamphlets, or some kind of advocacy group outside clubs to help people who were messed up or to give them some kind of reminder to not get too far gone, but it seems that a lot of the clubbing population in NYC is young and bull-headed and don't want to be told anything, much less be told to do less drugs. however, i think just having these types of organizations around for a visual reminder would be helpful and might also be a good way for clubs to work with community boards and the police.

remember, it is never as simple as it seems. often drugs are coming into the club FROM the club and sometimes the cops don't care so long as they're being taken care of. the whole "cops fighting drugs" show might be a vendetta against a club owner that didn't want to line the captain's pockets. as for community boards, there's a whole politics behind that as well.

bottom line, it's complicated LOL

[Cochise™]

Define "Club".

[Thylacine]

remember, it is never as simple as it seems. often drugs are coming into the club FROM the club and sometimes the cops don't care so long as they're being taken care of. the whole "cops fighting drugs" show might be a vendetta against a club owner that didn't want to line the captain's pockets. as for community boards, there's a whole politics behind that as well.

bottom line, it's complicated LOL

This statement is a throwback to the 80's. You can't "buy" a police precinct like that. I'm not saying the cops are chivalrous do-gooders. I'm speaking from a logistics point of view. There are too many outside units running through each command to control the efforts of how a precinct might exercise it's jurisprudence. These "units" don't answer to the "Captain" of the precinct. And there are many. This type of policing is unprecedented before the 90's but it is pretty prevalent nowadays.

There are something close to 40,000 police officers in the city of New York alone. That number is also unprecedented as well. A single larger precinct might house something like 400 police officers. Think about the implications of that. How can you prevent 400 officers from making some type of arrest activity at a club? How deep must that type of corruption run? I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just saying it's a tad improbable. I'm not even claiming the police aren't corrupt. I'm just claiming not in this way.

[Skylab]

very good discussion guys :)

[Mathieu]

I did not know you had to pay again if you wanted to enter a club in NY... in montreal, they give you a stamp and you go out and can come back right in. People like to go take some air

[Fast Eddie]

see wed have everyone leaving to go get more drugs and it would be way to accessible

[TORRETO]

see wed have everyone leaving to go get more drugs and it would be way to accessible
but fun:good2:

[Skylab]

see wed have everyone leaving to go get more drugs and it would be way to accessible

but how do other countries do it then? it seems the drug users in nyc are more 'hardcore' then other parts of the world. Dunno.