Name the Top Ten QB's in the NFL

[Fast Eddie]

whos the top ten right now .

if all are healthy whats your top ten??

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Drew Brees
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Phillip Rivers
6. Eli Manning
7. Tony Homo
8. Jay Cutler
9. Kurt Warner
10. Ben Rothelcheeseburger

[tomciz]

1. peyton manning
2. drew brees
3. Tom Brady
4.phililip rivers
5. Kurt warner
6. Ben Roethlisberger
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Donovan Mcnabb
9. Eli Manning
10. Tony homo

[joeyc521]

GREAT NOW THIS ONE IS GONNA TURN INTO AN ELI DEBATE THREAD TOO LOL


NAH IM JUST PLAYIN


i definitely have him in my top 10 also


good rankings buddy...u are finally a grown up in my book as far as ur NFL knowledge goes

[joeyc521]

i think id have to put carson palmer in there also...when he is healthy he is a pretty good quarterback

[sugarbabe2]

1. Drew Brees
2. Peyton Manning
3. Tom Brady
4. Phillip Rivers
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Kurt Warner
7. Tony Romo
8. Matt Ryan
9. Matt Cassel
10. Ben Rothlisberger

[Fast Eddie]

ok please explain why drew brees is better than tom brady, if all involved are healthy?????

[tomciz]

becasue brady is coming off a career changing injury....he might come back as strong as he was or he might not yet to be determined

[tomciz]

oh you said if healthy...well its mental too that kinda injury can fuck someone up mentally...and i was referring my list to this season not like all time or whatever

[tomciz]

1. Drew Brees
2. Peyton Manning
3. Tom Brady
4. Phillip Rivers
5. Donovan McNabb
6. Kurt Warner
7. Tony Romo
8. Matt Ryan
9. Matt Cassel
10. Ben Rothlisberger

matt cassel is ludicris!!!

[joeyc521]

HAHAHA

[sugarbabe2]

matt cassel is ludicris!!!


I just have one of those feelings for him this season or I could be totally wrong.

[joeyc521]

u sure u didnt use last season's fantasy football rankings????

[sugarbabe2]

Nope....he didn't even make it to the list for this years.

[joeyc521]

ok just checkin lol

[tomciz]

i equate matt cassel with like chad pennington decent qb no arm strength

[Fast Eddie]

if all QB's are healthy 100% brady is best. no questions. not drew brees, thats absurd

[tomciz]

the colts would be awful without peyton.....but the patriots went 11-5 without brady sooo whose the best lol

[joeyc521]

great stat drop tom!

[Fast Eddie]

dont be jealous because the pats had to change there offense just like the giants had to, and the giants failed and the pats somewhat prevailed.

[joeyc521]

they didnt change their offense lol

[tomciz]

im not a brady hater but the pats have an amazing team brady just compliments them...the colts kinda suck like without peyton they wouldnt even be play off contenders...there defense and running game are severely lacking and peyton picks up all there slack

[Fast Eddie]

they didnt change their offense lol

Joe this is where your wrong they definitely 100% changed the offensive stylehere was no more bombs to moss. alot more running. and quick outs etc. except for cassels one or two big passing yard games it was completely not the same

[Fast Eddie]

im not a brady hater but the pats have an amazing team brady just compliments them...the colts kinda suck like without peyton they wouldnt even be play off contenders...there defense and running game are severely lacking and peyton picks up all there slack

i agree but i think without brady they went from a 16-0 reg season team to an 11-5 without making the playoffs. id say thats a pretty big difference

[joeyc521]

Joe this is where your wrong they definitely 100% changed the offensive stylehere was no more bombs to moss. alot more running. and quick outs etc. except for cassels one or two big passing yard games it was completely not the same


dude i am so not wrong....if u go back and look at the stats they definitely threw alot more than they ran...there offensive style was still the same...quick underneath routes to welker with an occasional bomb to moss...the only reason u think it was changed was because there were not as many big touchdown throws to moss like there was the year before


check the stats if u dont believe me

cassel only threw 60 less passes than brady did they year before with only a 5% less completion percentage

513 rushing plays in 2008
451 rushing plays in 2007

so basically those 60 less passes made up for the increase in 60 extra rushes this past season

that is not a huge drop-off at all by NFL standards


but there is also one more interesting factor....73 of those rushing plays were runs by Cassel because he is a mobile quarterback...therefore they were not designed running plays but rather passing plays that POSSIBLY broke down so he had to scramble for yards


so therefore, if you take away Cassel's 73 rushes, technically they ran the ball more times when they had Brady the year before

[joeyc521]

and yes i did research that lol


gotta prove my point somehow

[kosmilly]

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Drew Brees
4. Ben Roethlisberger
5. Jay Cutler
6. Philip Rivers
7. Donovan Mcnabb (when at %100)
8. Eli Manning
9. Tony Romo
10. Matt Ryan


11. Carson Palmer - needs a consistant offense

[Cochise™]

1. Drew Brees
2. Payton Manning
3. Donovan McNabb
4. Tom Brady
5. Ben Rothlisbergerrrr.
6. Matt Hassleback
7. Carson Palmer
8. Tony Homo
9. Jay Cutler
10. Philip Rivers

[Cochise™]

7. Donovan Mcnabb (when at %100)


Shit! I can make a case that he's #1 in the league when @ 100%

[tomciz]

whats that like 3 games a year

[joeyc521]

hahahaha

hey tom at least for once im not sayin i wouldnt have Eli in my top 10

[tomciz]

1. Drew Brees
2. Payton Manning
3. Donovan McNabb
4. Tom Brady
5. Ben Rothlisbergerrrr.
6. Matt Hassleback
7. Carson Palmer
8. Tony Homo
9. Jay Cutler
10. Philip Rivers

hassleback is a stretch hes coming off like spine injury that sounds serious......and why does everyone like cutler he still hasnt gotten his team to the playoffs

[joeyc521]

they like him cause he puts up the numbers obviously....but he cant win & im not exactly sure how he will do in chicago without a receiver as good as Marshall or even close to Royal, who isnt that great himself

[Cochise™]

Tom, the questioned posed has in it: "If 100%"

[tomciz]

i motion to have the top 10 list amended from being healthy qbs to who do you think the best of the upcoming season will be

[Cochise™]

1. Drew Brees
2. Tom Brady
3. Ben Rothlisberger
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Payton Manning
6. Philip Rivers
7. Eli Manning
8. Tony Homo
9. Matt Hassleback
10. Aaron Rodgers

[kosmilly]

1. Steve McNair

[Cochise™]

My lord. Too soon. lol

[joeyc521]

thats cold man

[kosmilly]

so..youre disagreeing

[Cochise™]

hahahahaha I just spit my water out.

[tomciz]

1. Steve McNair

funniest shit i heard today...im jealous i didnt think of that...you bastard